December 21
1856 A man records
in his diary that a married woman in Salt Lake City had been accused of trying
to seduce the daughter of a man in town.
1887 Yesterday
William Cook was acquitted of the charge of having committed the “Crime Against
Nature”. First District Court Ogden.
1917-In Russia, the
Bolsheviks nullified many laws including sex between men. Seventeen years later
Article 121 would re-criminalize it, carrying a sentence up to five years
"deprivation of freedom."
1968 Dale Sorenson
MY FIRST LIFE - CHILDHOOD &
ADOLESCENCE I was born on December 21, 1968 in
San Francisco. My parents chose to leave SF when I was seventeen months old.
I've never forgiven them for that. From there we went to Mountain View California
(about an hour south of SF) until I was 7. Then we moved to Hollywood, Florida
(just outside of Ft. Lauderdale). We lived there for two years and then moved
again. From age 9 to age 25 I was raised against my will in Salt Lake City,
Utah. It was not a pleasant place to grow up. I attended East High School (the
same high school my father attended) and the University of Utah. Ironically, my
high school is where in 1995, the founding of the Utah Gay/Straight High School
Students Alliance sparked a controversy that became national news. Brave kids!
I'm the oldest of five children. As such, I had a rather large hand in raising
my siblings. (I've changed more diapers than most straight parents ever will.)
MY SECOND LIFE - COMING OUT At age 20, on May 6, 1989, I came out of the
closet. It changed my life forever. On that day, I decided I would never again
let anyone make me ashamed for being gay. In one day, being gay changed from
being a bad thing to be hidden, to a good thing to be expressed. Within two
months I came out to my entire family, all my friends and my coworkers. It
wasn't always easy. But it was always worth it. I refer to this as,
"Dale's Whirlwind Coming Out Tour of '89". I joined Utah Gay and
Lesbian Youth and later was elected to serve as one of the group's officers. I
joined the Lesbian & Gay Student Union at the University of Utah, the Gay
and Lesbian Community Council and started volunteering for the Stop AIDS
education and prevention project of the Utah AIDS Foundation. I went on to
become an executive officer of Gay and Lesbian Utah Democrats (GLUD) for four
years, including
executive director from 1992-1994. GLUD was founded by my dear
friend David Nelson. David is a brilliant political strategist, organizer, PR
consultant and was my political mentor. His decades of volunteer service and
leadership have earned him a place in history, and my undying respect and
appreciation. GLUD operated with great success from January 1990 through
December 1996. In the summer of 1992, I was elected to be the first openly-gay
delegate to a national convention from Utah. I attended the Democratic National
Convention in New York City. While there I met dozens of Democratic politicians
and queer activists, and I also fell in love with New York City. I've held
numerous positions in different campaigns of progressive causes (gay rights,
AIDS, reproductive choice, anti-death penalty, interracial and inter-community
coalition building) and democratic candidates and committees (Congressional
campaigns, state legislature campaigns, county commission campaigns, campaign
for governor and attorney general, state platform committee and more). I served
as member of the board of directors of the Utah Stonewall Center for two years.
I helped organize events for Utah's Gay Pride Day and National Coming Out Day.
For several years, I was the Utah Canvas Director for the Human Rights
Campaign, Speak Out Project. These activities put me in the position of being
the most-publicly-out gay man in Utah for about three years. I was in the press
at least monthly, often weekly, sometimes daily. It was not uncommon for issues
I was working on to be the lead story on all four TV news stations and run
front page in both daily papers. Not surprisingly, after five years of
full-time volunteer activism in addition to a full-time career in advertising,
I burned out. I discovered that my emotions and I were strangers. I was so
driven, so rational, so cerebral, that I quite literally didn't know how to
feel love or anything else. I realized I had accomplished everything I could
politically, and that my life was at an emotional dead end in Utah. So, as an
act of self preservation, I left.
Dale Sorenson |
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1971 After
counseling with Spencer Kimball, Donald Attridge wrote the following in his
diary. “Spoke with Elder Kimball. I told him how difficult it was not to have
anyone to love, to touch, to kiss. He warned me that I would die alone as a
homosexual and that no one would come to my funeral. He said he had a friend
who had chosen that way of life and no one came to his funeral." (We’ll Find A Place Donald Attridge)
1973-A bulletin was
issued by a federal judge stating that a person's sexual orientation may not be
sole cause for termination of Federal employment in the U.S.
1977- A litigation
which grew out of the Hotel Utah withdrawing the use of its facilities for Gay
Pride Week was reconciled by an out of court settlement of $1,600 paid to Ken
Kline, Ron Hunt, and Bob Waldrop, Individuals and Organizers of the Salt Lake
Coalition for Human Rights and D. Kendall Perkins Attorney at Law.
1984 Gay newspaper
The Salt City Source discontinued after nine issues. Editor Laura L. Ferreira
gave the paper over to the Community Service Center and Clinic. To avoid
incurring all old debts of the Salt City Source, the name of the paper was
changed to The Best Source
1985 Salt Lake
City's last Adult Movie Theater, The Studio Theater, at 228 South State Street closed its doors rather
than challenge Utah's pornography laws. Declining attendance and the rise of
video pornography doomed the theater.Deseret News
1988 Grant Cheever
called about the Gay and Lesbian Historical Society and Archives. We talked for
about an hour about the project and how interested he is in it and that he’s
collected articles and Gay related information for the past ten years. He was interested
in joining Rocky O’Donavan and I in getting the Gay Historical Society off the
ground. (Memoirs of Ben Williams)
1988-The Chicago
City Council voted 28-17 to approve a bill banning discrimination based on
sexual orientation.
Mike Archuleta |
1990-An MTV poll
reported that 92% of America's teenagers say it would make no difference to
them if their favorite rock star came out as gay or lesbian.
1991 - There was no
way I could get the apartment ready for a Full Moon Gathering tonight so Homo
Erectus and Gillian agreed to host it at their place. Puck is staying with Homo
Erectus and has really festively decorated their place. Anyway I read Carl’s medicine cards at Silver
Fox and did some errands today, dropped some Salt and Sages off at Apple Star
and Spirit Dancer’s for their womyn celebration tonight and I made apple crisp
with cinnamon red hots for the Quick Beam Gathering. About 5:30 people started
arriving at their apartment because Puck wanted people to change into their
Faerie Skirts down here before going down to Gillian’s. People who attended the
Wolf Moon Gathering were Morning Star who was the Pillar, Gillian, Sky bear,
Popcorn, Silver Fox, Anzio, Puck, Homo Erectus, Red Coyote, Fuku, Dolphin,
Thunder Beam, Peanut Butter, Ceo Kjammi, and myself Gayflower. While Morning
Star was the Pillar Puck more or less led the gathering. I was surprised to see Sky Bear at the circle
since he had made his intentions known that he didn’t want to be connected with
the Faeries anymore. So it was unique to have all three of the founding Pillars
of the Sacred Faeries present at this Wolf Moon and Yule Gathering. Morning
Star led us in some visualization and it was a magical circle. We closed the
circle at 7:30 to get ready for the Quick Beam Circle which was holding their
winter Solstice Celebration in a warehouse next to Squatters and across from
Bandaloops. We all walked down 3rd South
in full Faerie Drag just a block over from La France. There were about 250 pagans gathered in one
spot from various covens, circles, and solitary practitioners. Most were in
medieval drag and the Quick Beam Yule celebration seemed to be orchestrated by
Lesbians and non-Gay Women. To tell the truth, the heterosexual men were kind of
duds. I was not pleased that the heteros symbolically killed the old Sun King
to bring in the new Sun King. We Faeries don’t hold to that. We let the Old Sun die of old age to return
to the Mother’s womb for renewal as a natural cycle. But all in all it was fun
and powerful even if Puck was way drunk loud and boisterous. (Memoirs of Ben
Williams)
1994 151 GAYS
CLAIMED BY HATE CRIMES Associated Press At least 151 gay people in the United
States have been murdered over the past three years in hate-motivated killings,
a report compiled by activist groups says. The report examined killings in 29
states and Washington, D.C. "These murders are only the end result of the
rampant violence we face as gay people," said Lester Olmstead-Rose,
executive director of the Community United Against Violence, a San Francisco
group that took part in the study. "What we face is terrorism - the demand
by thugs that we conform to their personal and religious standards,"
Olmstead-Rose said in a statement. The study was coordinated nationally by the
New York City Gay and Lesbian Anti-Violence Project, which said that it
"does not purport to document the true number of gay-lesbian-related
homicides" since not all states are accounted for and most of the
organizations contributing to the list of incidents are all-volunteer. The
list, culled from police and news media reports, describes numerous killings in
which victims were bludgeoned, stabbed repeatedly or mutilated, or where
witnesses heard anti-gay remarks or suspects confessed to anti-gay sentiment.
Twenty-four people were victims of serial killers. "What we've found is an
extreme level of viciousness during anti-gay murders," Olmstead-Rose said.
The gay homicides also appear to be solved at a lower rate than killings in
general, the report said. It suggested friends or family members fear revealing
a victim's sexual orientation to police, and that anti-gay killings may be a
lower priority for some police departments. FBI spokesman Rick Smith in San
Francisco said he had "no basis for comment" on the report because
the FBI does not differentiate between killings of gays and heterosexuals in
its crime statistics. © 1998 Deseret
News Publishing Co.
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• Edward Jay Bell Edward Jay Bell 09/04/48
~ 12/18/03 E. Jay Bell was born in thesmall town of Trona, California in the
Mojave Desert on September 4, 1948 to Clarence M. and Deola S. Bell. After
graduating from Trona High School, Jay went on to serve an LDS mission, then to
BYU where he received a Bachelor of Arts degree in 1986. Since then he has
lived and worked in the Salt Lake Valley, and dedicated many hours to research
and in support of the diverse cultures of America. Jay will always be
remembered for his brilliant mind, his love of knowledge and especially his
delightful sense of humor. Jay is survived by his mother Deola; two brothers,
Ray (Gloria) and Lynn (Debbie); nieces, nephews and cousins. His father
Clarence preceded him in death. Funeral services will be Monday, December 22,
2003 at 11:00 in the Mountain View Memorial Chapel, 3115 East 7800 South
(Bengal Ave). Friends and family may visit one hour prior to service. Interment
Mountain View Memorial Cemetery. Published in the Salt Lake Tribune on
12/21/2003.
Chris Buttars |
Mike Picardi |
2005 Wednesday A
waste of time Salt Lake Tribune Why would Sen. Chris Buttars, R-West Jordan, even
spend one minute of valuable legislative time on trying to outlaw gay-straight
alliance clubs in Utah high schools when there are so many more important
things to worry about such as homelessness, affordable housing, eliminating the
sales tax on food, etc. Get a life! Jeff Geigle Richfield
2005 Wednesday
posted by David Nelson Here are some links to recent financial
disclosures of
Utah Rep. Jackie Biskupski (campaign), state Sen. Scott D. McCoy (campaign),
Equality Utah (political-action committee), Equality Utah Foundation
(educational), and Gay and Lesbian
Community Center of Utah Inc. (educational). The web sites are also
useful to learn the details of other non-profit and political groups. David Nelson Salt Lake City
David Nelson |
• EQUALITY UTAH FOUNDATION (2004) In 2004,
"Salaries, compensation, and employee benefits" was
"$67,034" and "Other salaries and wages" was
"$129,995." Specifically, "Vice Chair Scott McCoy"
"$42,000" ($16.80 an hour), "Treasurer Carol Gnade"
$19,000" ($63.33 an hour) and "Executive Director" "Michael
Mitchell" "$6,034" ($15.09 an hour). *In 2004,
"Compensation of officers, directors, etc." was "$28,489"
including "$15,086" "Executive Director" "Michael
Mitchell" "$15,086" ($15.09 an hour).
• GAY AND LESBIAN COMMUNITY CENTER OF UTAH
INC. (2003) *In 2003, "Compensation of officers, directors, etc." was
"$39,993" and "Other salaries and wages" was
"$180,339." In 2002, "Compensation of officers, directors, etc." was
"$73,000" and "Other
salaries and wages" was "$134,003."
• Wed Dec 21, 2005 12:18 pm posted by Chad
Keller From the looks of it the Center might be better off without all of the
Salaries and benefits. Stream Line and reduce the labor overhead would make it
stronger!
• Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:22 pm posted by
Melissa Larsen Re: Financial-disclosure reports For anyone reading or
participating in this group, the financial records for every non-profit
organization in America are available at www.guidestar.org For every state run
PAC organization, those records can be found at www.utah.gov I believe that if you look at these websites
you will find that the salaries of the major gay non-profit organizations in
Utah are no better or worse than anywhere else in the state or country. In
fact, with a little investigation...the salaries of those who run other
statewide organizations such as the Utah Foster Care Foundation and the United
Way make a considerably larger amount of money than other Executive Directors.
When we sacrifice our hard earned dollars to donate to non-profits some of that
money must go to salaries, it is the nature of the beast. Thank you for
bringing this important topic up however, no non-profit in Utah remains
secretive about the amount of money they bring in and spend. They all have to
report that information to the IRS and other financial institutions. Of all the
salaries in the world, those of the people who give their time and energy to
the non-profit sector are the least kept secret. They are not hard to find at
all. Melissa Larsen"
Wed 2005 Wednesday
posted by Chad Keller Jere answer simply this one question without all the crap
stating only the facts surrounding it. Did you bother as a board member to look
how it would appear to post board positions, with such a limit time to prepare
to apply or even give the community a chance to get people interested? While I
think the world of Fran (Pruyn), and I see the urgent need to make the changes,
again, the Center and the community has come up short handed. The schedule does
not give proper time to show interest or get people interested. With the
printing schedule of community news papers, some with internet, and some
without, word of mouth and etc. From an industry standard, from a marketing,
public relations 60 days with an aggressive campaign to let people know there were
positions open. Jere, do you support such a limited time, what was the
discussion on this, and Is this time enough to truly enroll the community in
being members of the board. Or is this just another way to alienate people and
limit the pool of candidates to those who are part of what seems to be your own
clique of people...lets call em Jere's Kids! I will not need to provide much
from the past, I can see that plenty will be provided to me in the days months
and years to come. But what the heck do I know.....From what everyone running
the Center says thanks to its board members and you, is that I am truly stupid,
non talented, and full of hot air.... Perhaps the degree on the wall wasnt
worth it. One things for sure, no matter how well intended, it will someday be
thorn in all of our sides. Chad Keller
2005 Wednesday
posted by Chad Keller Jere; It would seem that this is an exact copy of what
was trying to be attempted under the name of Utah GLBT Community Leadership
Forum. I guess I should be flattered that you found one of my ideas to be so
wonderful that you would copy it. In reading your blog, since the statement and
policy you wrote is so limiting to our community to participate, would this be
a complete list of what you feel best represents the Utah Gay and Lesbian
Community: Jere Keys—GLBTCCU & SLMetro, Charles Milne—U of U LGBTRC, Kellie
Foreman—U of U SRHSS, Mike Thompson—Equality Utah, Mike Picardi—UT Stonewall
Dems, Stuart Merrill—UT Stonewall Dems, Debra Daniels—U of U WRC, L'aura L.
Bradford-- NUWROC, Robert Austin--GLBTCCU, Evelyn Garlington--GLBTCCU, Keri
Jones, Troy Williams--KRCL, Alice Sikorski- -PFLAG, Valarie Larabee--GLBTCCU,
Peter Savas—RCGSE Seems that if this organization to accomplish anything for
the community it must first follow the rules of what was established with the
GLCCU (thats the old community council) which the Leadership Forum based itself
off of, which you are infringing upon what we were attempting to do: 1)
Everyone is welcome to come to meetings, with appropriate times for none
members to address the group. 2) Every organization is a member until such time
there is sufficient interest to require membership 3) until such time there is
a strong, broad, and diverse representation of the community, we remember that
we serve at the will of the community for which we are attempting to represent.
Please tell us why these people were selected to be representative of our
community, while others are not. It would seem other than one or two that this
is more of a group to insure that the paychecks keep flowing, and that only people
who have a paycheck, and those willing to support the paid gay process are
welcome. Is this assumption correct? I can honestly say Jere, that when I was
doing the Forum, we were a true representation of the community. Not just those
I liked and those I did not.
Participation was to just come if you could. Chad Keller It takes people to build things
like, centers, festivals, and oh yeah communities. We all have a right to participate
in something that is COMMUNITY RELATED. Something I understand you forgot in
Vegas too.
2005
2:29 pm posted by Chad Keller Jere; Please provide to the community a complete
list of all of the GAY/LESBIAN ORGANIZATIONS that are participating. While I
believe in building coalitions, and partnerships I wonder exactly how many of
the straight organizations that are present in this list need to be truly
enlisted in the building a healthy gay community. Would it not be better to
start internally and invite all gay groups to have one representative present,
rather than a collection of people who don’t necessary have a mission to serve
our community, and then multiple representation from others. Are the missions
of the people participating consistent with the goals of the organization. Do
the PARTICIPATING organization hierarchy and bylaws allow for the participation
in such a group? Is this organization properly incorporated under the laws of
the state of Utah, or is it part of another group? If is part of another group,
is it permitted in the bylaws that they have on file with the state? Let’s look
at and discuss the following from your last minutes that were posted in your
blog. Remember, your group is conducting the business of our community, we have
a right to ask, and I would hope that other members of this "group"
representing our community would also respond to my inquires. I am and so are
other listening Jere for you to launch another of what I see as your signature
attacks on me. Im ready! I would remind those listening that the Community
Leadership Forum that was created and crushed by the Center was accomplishing
much of the same. The forum however had board participation and input from the
entire community; Minutes from September 1 Meeting Minutes for September LGBT
Task Force meeting: September 1st, 2005 The Following members were present at
the meeting: Jere Keys—GLBTCCU & SLMetro, Charles Milne—U of U LGBTRC,
Kellie Foreman—U of U SRHSS, Mike Thompson—Equality Utah, Mike Picardi—UT
Stonewall Dems, Stuart Merrill—UT Stonewall Dems, Debra Daniels—U of U WRC,
L'aura L. Bradford-- NUWROC, Robert Austin--GLBTCCU, Evelyn
Garlington--GLBTCCU, Keri Jones, Troy Williams--KRCL, Alice Sikorski- -PFLAG,
Valarie Larabee--GLBTCCU, Peter Savas—RCGSE Are the above a complete
representation of the actuall GLBT Community. In the spirit of full disclosure
who are the other "leaders", and why is there multiple
representations from certain groups. Is this a redo of the Police Liaison
Committee? The below mention mission is puzzling: It states GLBT Task force
"is Community wide coalition working toward....." Is this not the
mission to similar to that of the Alliance for Unity? Should we not be
concerned with health of our own community first, then later create (I’m sure a
paid position knowing our community) someone from this group to represent this
group to something like that Alliance. Also more puzzling, why is this then
called gay when it is not specific in its structure and membership to our
community. Mission as approved:The Utah GLBT task
force is a community wide coalition working toward a unified, proactive, and
healthy community in Utah. Vision: A cohesive, empowered, and mobilized GLBT
Community. The above Vision is actually the basis for your Mission Statement.
All of this should be present here. Regardless of it missing, this vision is
limited to only the members. If we are to mobilize the Community would then the
organization be open and willing to make a positive effort to enroll and seek
their participation. Seems narrow and to quote a previous email from you
"sinister" Remember Jere, I get paid to write Missions, bylaws, and
incorporation papers....So as a professional what’s up with the added
unnecessary verbiage? Your mission is overly broad. The people participating in
the vote below. Is this a clerical error on the part of the of the person
recording the vote or are there "mystery members?" The numbers in
attendance and the yays and nays don’t add up. A motion was made to approve the
above vision statement given review of the vision statement in 6 month, by Stuart
Merrill, and seconded by Evelyn Garlington, 13 yeas, 2 abstentions and 1nay.
Jere, this is a big one. Your integrity dealing with me, as with the Center's
dealings with me and others....miss the whole statement you have adopted.
Again, larger, who is the focus here? The larger main stream, or the our
community? Or is this requirements for membership. Please explain this, and
narrow it down for us how exactly this partisans to our community (GLBTWHATEVERELSETODY) (Yeah...I’m one that
has a problem with our title GLBT, and us being a dumping ground for the masses
of sexually repressed.) Code of ethics: Membership in the Utah GLBT Leadership
task Force requires personal integrity, belief in the dignity and worth of
individuals, respect for individual differences and diversity, respect for
individual privacy, a commitment to service, and dedication to the development
of individuals and the larger community through education, communication, and
service. Motion for approval by Evelyn Garlington, and Mike Thompson seconded,
15 yeas, 1 abstention, and 0 nays. Strategy and Work What materialized with the
Katrina Aid. I have spoken to many in the community who heard nothing. I fully
support the aid to Katrina, and hope that we didn’t drop the ball. Was there
specific connections to our community that need to be addressed? Katrina
Support, what will the community response be to help the survivors of response
specifically towards the GLBT community? Monetary contributions should be sent
through the rainbow fund. Service projects were proposed. A call will be sent
out for donations for the Youth Food Pantry. Use of existing tools for
communication will be used to mobilize organizations and groups. Did this
happen? Again the masses heard nothing. Wouldnt it be better to enroll all of
us in planning this important event. Seems like the select few doing this
always seem to complain how much work they have on their plate, then really
great action on behalf of our community falls through the cracks. National
Coming Out day Full page Ad. Use of the shoe network. Evelyn to set up donation
forms and electronic forms. Discussion about feasibility will happen online.
All task force members agreed to raise 10 people to recruit 10 people. The
Peace Rally listed is disturbing. Am I to assume that our community and its
leaders don’t have enough clout to have a rally of their own? Sadly the New
World order Protest Strategy doesn’t work. If our message was to Bush to stop a
war on families why then would we allow our message to be lost with in the mix
of all the others seeking the spotlight? If the point was to have gay people
there as participating citizens, what would then make them stand out among the
rest of the crowd. Isn’t our ultimate goal to finally be accepted and blend in?
Peace Rally, September 24th, unified presence of LGBT Community. Pioneer Park
Rally at Noon, meet up at 11:00 AM, Please bring a sign that says stop the war
on gay families, or we support all troops. Idea is to show visibility at the
protest and join as a community in the protest. Again, Big problem listed here
below regarding the Media, as leaders you have the right to speak on behalf of
your individual groups only. NOT THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE! Not all of the
community accepts the missions of those represented, and unless the whole
community,(everyone wanting to participate Jere) can come and participate in
the creation of the talking points, then we are just rehashing old statistics
time and again. This is where we allow the our enemies to gain strength.
Talking points are created to address specific issues surrounding a specific
moment. (IE the participation of the GLBT Community in the Pioneer Park
protest, and why the end of the war in Iraq had importance to us here in
America, the statistics of the don’t ask don’t tell and it impact on the war,
Gay families who lost sons or daughters in the war, and how the new Iraq
government will benefit gay people in Muslim based Iraq.) Basically your asking
only those you allow to participate in how to talk to the media. I personally
do not support at this time groups like Equality Utah, only because I don’t see
any payoff at this point to the supposed allies we have in the state
legislature. Truly where is the contract that a candidate would support our
issues if they take our money and get elected? Or do we fund them and just hope
in the end provided they answer their questions in a positive manner. Do you
feel the same? A proposed committee was
formed to create talking points for working with the media. It was addressed
that Equality Utah will draft some talking points, and propose those to the
task force. We also need to reframe the language that we use to restructure the
information that is available to the community. The purpose of such documents
will help community members in talking with others, including the media based
upon current situation and personal experiences so we can reframe the language
used to describe the GLBT community. Don’t know Jere, but I think you and this
group are shortchanging yourselves and our entire community. It would appear
that it is not
going to work. Did
I miss some minutes or something? CK
2005 Utah Gay Forum
Wed Dec 21, 2005 1:27 pm posted by Barrytowns WOW! This really is a free space
for all of you bitter people to rip each other apart in a "public
space." Well let me just tell you what this looks like to an outsider. To
me this looks like a community that isn't getting anywhere because you all
insist on being right. Some of you speak of a "level playing field"
well unless you are willing to compromise as well there will be no "level
playing field."You say nasty
things about the community leaders, WHY? are you trying to prove a point,
because if you are make it already and lets move on. I realize that people in
this community can be really cruel to each other, but you all have a golden
opportunity to be the bigger person. Some of you have been around for a long
time, which is great, maybe your knowledge could be of use instead of spending
all your time ranting and raving about what a bad job everyone is doing on this
group. My hope for you all is that you can get over all the wounds and crap and
make some progress in this damn state. Good Night and Good Luck- Barrytowns
• Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:02 am posted by Ben
Williams I agree that so much of our energy could be put to better use- however
people posting on this site have every right to express opinions and feelings
they may have. People have the right to respond back. Every one that has posted
something on this site had a need to get something off their chest. Agree or
disagree. That's okay. Everyone that has posted on this site are people who are
extremely strong willed personalities with strong opinions and emotions. That
is why they are the movers and shakers. Everyone has worked passionately in
some way or another to contribute to the building of this community. Perhaps an
"outsider" will see these expressions differently than I do. I see
them more as quarrels and squabbles within a "family". I am old
fashion enough to still think of Gay people as family and not little straight
wannabes. Besides those who are as old I am remember vividly the slogan
"Silence = Death". Utah is full of passive aggressive people who
wouldn't say shit if their mouth was full of it. They smile at you while
stabbing one in the back. I myself would rather know where someone stands then
trying to sugar coat everything. We are humans we have differences of opinions.
We all have egos. We get our feelings hurt. David Nelson and I sparred
ferociously when we were members of the GLCCU. We were in different camps and
had different perceptions how GLCCU should operate. I've written some pretty
nasty things in my private journal about him from heated council squabbling.
Having said that there is probably few in the community that I admire more than
David. He has followed his vision, been knocked down, verbally abused,
disparaged, and yet he has the fortitude to continue working for the rights of
Gay people from his perspective. Do I have to agree with everything David does.
Hell no...but in my mind he's been robbed of recognition and accolades by short
term visionaries with short term memories. Chad Keller is a visionary, a
passionate, free floating ideas man. Most of the groups in this community have
at one point or another benefited from his vision of fabulousness. I have
disagreed with Chad many a time and told him so, and yet I also know that I owe
my re-involvement in a community to Chad, a community in which my archives was
stolen and destroyed, a newspaper I created was usurped, and my name sullied by
my insisting that our community center have oversight by the community. Duh! My
love of the Gay community is greater than the animosity I feel to the people
who did some wrongs to me. I really don't dwell on it but just move on. But
like the proverbial elephant "I never forget." Chad has had many of
his ideas usurped and probably is feeling a little bitter. (okay a lot). I hope
he can move on and use his incredible talents, which less imaginative people
seen to always be "borrowing", to create new spaces suited for his
artistic temperament. Mike Picardi has the soul of Don Quixote to still be
passionate in the Democratic Party in Utah. I so admire him for seeing how
things should be and not as they currently are. What is more brutal than then
the political arena? Ask David Nelson. It darn nearly killed him. Jere Keys is
an incredibly energetic young man who brings the fresh perspective of an
"it can be done" attitude. He is doing great things. He's allowed to
make mistakes. He's earned it. Anyone willing to jump into our collective Gay
bed and scrap and scrabble with the rest of us is truly a remarkable person or
plain crazy. We say we love diversity but sometimes I think not. That's my
opinion and I am sticking with it! (or at least until I change my mind) Ben
Williams the old and fat
• Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:19 am posted by Ben
Williams Gay Heaven will not be Gay Heaven to me if both my Gay friends and my
Gay enemies aren't there. They both shape who I am and who I will be. (I hope I
have a few lovers there also). I guess a few straights will make it to heaven
also. Not many with their attitudes I would imagine. Ben Williams
• Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:45 am posted by Ben
Williams Re: Ripping each other apart I set up this site that anyone, members
of the group or not, may post, however only members receive email. I only have
this group monitored for one reason and that is to keep the proliferation of
porno advertisers from going unsolicited to subscribers to this group. Some
people live in Utah some don't. Who cares. I've lived in Utah off and on since
1973 and continuously since 1985 and I still don't consider myself a Utahn and
neither do Utahns. I am and always will be an outsider. However as resident of
Salt Lake City that’s another story. I feel very attached to my adopted city
and love LOVE Salt Lake. When I chose to finally buy a house I made sure I had
a SLC address. Salt Lake City contains some the best people on the planet! West
Jordan can go fuck itself along with all of Utah County! That's my opinion and
I am sticking with it! PS Come move to
SLC if the air don't kill you nothing will.
Ben Williams
• Thu Dec 22, 2005 9:55 am posted by
Barrytowns Re: Ripping each other apart Thank you for your assumption that I
live somewhere else. Truth be told, I am a native of Utah and have just come
back here after a long hiatus, your reaction and lack of acceptance is why I
left. I appreciate your paranoia and the assertion that I am from another
state, it reaffirms for me your true motivation in participating in this
"open dialogue". It is interesting that when someone you don't know
participates in this dialogue your delusions get the best of you and you feel
that you must delve into someone’s private life in order to discredit them immediately.
I used to go to the Sun before it was destroyed in the tornado, I go to the
Trapp on a regular basis. You know me, you all know me...I am the one you never
wanted to talk to because it would be beneath you. Thank you for reaffirming my
opinions. I will no longer be participating in your "open
dialogue".Good night and good luck. Barrytown
• Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:09 am posted by Ben
Williams Re: Ripping each other apart I don't go to the Trapp often anymore but
I am more than happy to talk to you. I will be the balding heavy bearded guy
with glasses. Oh wait that describes most of us! LOL Seriously glad you are
back and have fresh view points Ben Williams
2006 Naked Yoga in Provo??? That's right. And it's
not a moment too soon. eNerGY will be having a special Nude Yoga for Beginners
in Provo, Utah on Thursday, December
21st at 7pm. The cost is $10. This class will be specifically designed
for the first-time yoga practitioner. Learn some of the fundamentals of yoga.
You will experience some of the benefits that yoga can offer. Your instructor
will be John Cottrell of eNerGY: Nude Guy Yoga. To learn more about
2013 Hundreds seeking marriages turned away in Weber County Same-sex marriage Weber County clerk offers personal apology to crowd. By Marissa Lang | The Salt Lake Tribune Hundreds of marriage applicants were turned away at the Weber County clerk’s office Saturday afternoon after they had been told the office would open to issue licenses for one hour. Weber County Clerk Ricky Hatch personally handed out an apology letter to each Utahn who stood in line outside the county’s offices for hours in the freezing cold Saturday afternoon in anticipation of applying for marriage licenses. Officials at the Ogden office had previously announced they would open between 1 p.m. and 2 p.m. to handle an influx of applications, after a federal judge declared Utah’s same-sex marriage ban invalid on Friday. "I want to personally apologize for the confusion today," Hatch wrote in the statement. "I intended to open the office on Saturday for logistical reasons in anticipation of a large volume of marriage applicants on Monday. "I did not anticipate the security requirements of opening the county building." More than two hundred people stood in line Saturday — some for as long as two hours, according to those who witnessed the scene in Ogden — only to be turned away about 1:30 p.m. Hatch later explained to The Salt Lake Tribune that he made the decision to open for an hour on Saturday at 11:30 a.m. — just an hour and a half before show time. It barely gave him enough time to solicit extra help from his deputy and staff, let alone notify the county’s contracted security detail. Other tenants in the building —including federal government offices — expressed concerns about opening the county offices to the crowd without any security measures in place. Hatch had also been advised that opening the office for "special circumstances" may violate equal-protection laws, as the county had never before opened on a Saturday to accommodate a particular group or event. "It looked like we’d be making a special accommodation for a particular group and we’ve never done that before," he said. "Even though that’s not why I did it, legally, the argument could be made." Hatch noted that had the offices been able to open Saturday, anyone could have come down to apply for a marriage license — opposite-sex as well as same-sex couples. About 1 p.m., the time at which the office had promised to open its doors to the eager marriage applicants outside, Hatch made the "difficult" decision to remain closed. "I felt horrible that I made people stand outside in the cold, some of them for a couple of hours, based on a promise or decision I had made, only to turn around and tell them no," Hatch said. "I felt bad about that. As a public servant it’s my responsibility to be out there and face them directly and talk to them personally." So, he drafted a letter, put on his jacket and went outside to apologize. Though clearly disappointed, Hatch said, the crowd was largely understanding and accepted his explanation. He told individuals to return on Monday, when the office will open at its usual 8 a.m. The Weber County clerk’s staff will open an increased number of terminals equipped to handle marriage applications on Monday and Tuesday in an attempt to process as many as possible before the Christmas holiday. The office will close at noon on Tuesday. "There were a lot of people here who were really excited to get their marriage licenses today," said Max Green, a Weber County resident who works as Equality Utah’s assistant manager of community programs. "They left disappointed." Hatch dismissed the notion that there was any political motivation behind either of his decisions Saturday — to open the office and issue marriage licenses for an hour, or, ultimately, to stay
closed. Green, who went to the Weber County office building Saturday to make sure Hatch "kept his promise," said he was satisfied by the genuine apology the crowd was given. But added he would have preferred there be no need for one. Weber was the only county that offered or attempted to open its clerk’s office on Saturday following Judge Robert Shelby’s ruling. All other county clerk’s offices will be open — as usual — on Monday morning.
2017 The Utah Senate just confirmed the first ever openly Lesbian Judge, Camille Neider. It was an 18-2 vote. Gov. Gary R. Herbert has appointed Camille Neider to the Second District Court.“Camille Neider has distinguished herself as a knowledgeable, thoughtful attorney who has experience and skills that will make her a fine jurist,” Gov. Herbert said. “If confirmed, Camille will take the bench following an impressive legal career, and will bring with her a sincere desire to provide public service.”She received a B.A. in Political Science from Brigham Young University and a J.D. from the J. Reuben Clark Law School at Brigham Young University. “I am grateful and humbled to be appointed to the Second District Court by Gov. Herbert. I accept the charge to be fair, impartial and dedicated to upholding the rule of law,” Neider said. “I look forward to serving the people of the second district and intend to do all I can to further the integrity and trust the public has in the judiciary.” Her wife and three children were there for the vote. Neider will fill the vacancy created by the retirement of Judge Brent West on Dec. 29, 2017.
2013 Hundreds seeking marriages turned away in Weber County Same-sex marriage Weber County clerk offers personal apology to crowd. By Marissa Lang | The Salt Lake Tribune Hundreds of marriage applicants were turned away at the Weber County clerk’s office Saturday afternoon after they had been told the office would open to issue licenses for one hour. Weber County Clerk Ricky Hatch personally handed out an apology letter to each Utahn who stood in line outside the county’s offices for hours in the freezing cold Saturday afternoon in anticipation of applying for marriage licenses. Officials at the Ogden office had previously announced they would open between 1 p.m. and 2 p.m. to handle an influx of applications, after a federal judge declared Utah’s same-sex marriage ban invalid on Friday. "I want to personally apologize for the confusion today," Hatch wrote in the statement. "I intended to open the office on Saturday for logistical reasons in anticipation of a large volume of marriage applicants on Monday. "I did not anticipate the security requirements of opening the county building." More than two hundred people stood in line Saturday — some for as long as two hours, according to those who witnessed the scene in Ogden — only to be turned away about 1:30 p.m. Hatch later explained to The Salt Lake Tribune that he made the decision to open for an hour on Saturday at 11:30 a.m. — just an hour and a half before show time. It barely gave him enough time to solicit extra help from his deputy and staff, let alone notify the county’s contracted security detail. Other tenants in the building —including federal government offices — expressed concerns about opening the county offices to the crowd without any security measures in place. Hatch had also been advised that opening the office for "special circumstances" may violate equal-protection laws, as the county had never before opened on a Saturday to accommodate a particular group or event. "It looked like we’d be making a special accommodation for a particular group and we’ve never done that before," he said. "Even though that’s not why I did it, legally, the argument could be made." Hatch noted that had the offices been able to open Saturday, anyone could have come down to apply for a marriage license — opposite-sex as well as same-sex couples. About 1 p.m., the time at which the office had promised to open its doors to the eager marriage applicants outside, Hatch made the "difficult" decision to remain closed. "I felt horrible that I made people stand outside in the cold, some of them for a couple of hours, based on a promise or decision I had made, only to turn around and tell them no," Hatch said. "I felt bad about that. As a public servant it’s my responsibility to be out there and face them directly and talk to them personally." So, he drafted a letter, put on his jacket and went outside to apologize. Though clearly disappointed, Hatch said, the crowd was largely understanding and accepted his explanation. He told individuals to return on Monday, when the office will open at its usual 8 a.m. The Weber County clerk’s staff will open an increased number of terminals equipped to handle marriage applications on Monday and Tuesday in an attempt to process as many as possible before the Christmas holiday. The office will close at noon on Tuesday. "There were a lot of people here who were really excited to get their marriage licenses today," said Max Green, a Weber County resident who works as Equality Utah’s assistant manager of community programs. "They left disappointed." Hatch dismissed the notion that there was any political motivation behind either of his decisions Saturday — to open the office and issue marriage licenses for an hour, or, ultimately, to stay
closed. Green, who went to the Weber County office building Saturday to make sure Hatch "kept his promise," said he was satisfied by the genuine apology the crowd was given. But added he would have preferred there be no need for one. Weber was the only county that offered or attempted to open its clerk’s office on Saturday following Judge Robert Shelby’s ruling. All other county clerk’s offices will be open — as usual — on Monday morning.
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